Strongest book makers

Re: Strongest book makers

Postby elcriollito » 07 Jan 2008 23:12

Thks feeeeeeesh
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Re: Strongest book makers

Postby m.t_mode » 16 Jan 2008 13:33

elcriollito wrote:Thanks to your pic here i got the idea,
If i clik on the right option mouse in some line of my opening book ,and choose admiration(!) this engine will know that i will choose this line to be play
example if i choose
1.e4!
with this option my engine will only play e4 over any other main lines ,is that correct M.T._mode


Yes, but be careful about the movement order as well...and keep in mind that it's sometimes better not to touch the book at all.
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Re: Strongest book makers

Postby chessplayer » 15 Apr 2008 20:01

SOMEONE CAN SHOW ME HAW CAN I MAKE MY OWN BOOK IN F9 I NEED SOME PIC PLS THX
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Re: Strongest book makers

Postby chesslover_not_enemy » 15 Apr 2008 20:08

its very easy chessplayer

if u have fritz 10 gui as most of us have whenever u load it u will see in right corner
book options. try clicking with right mouse click and u will see some options pop up.
then u will figure all the rest by yourself.
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Re: Strongest book makers

Postby linasinblues » 16 Apr 2008 00:27

i second the motion chessplayer. step by step with diagrams and pics pls.
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Re: Strongest book makers

Postby chessplayer » 16 Apr 2008 02:22

PLS PUT SOME FOTO I THINK PLAYERS LIKE TO KNOW HAW WE CAN MAKE BOOK
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Re: Strongest book makers

Postby matematiko » 16 Apr 2008 05:11

Please correctme if I am wrong folks.

Fritz(8,9,10 etc) it is only good to modify books, delete certain lines and stuff like that.

To create an opening book from a database( chessbase or PGN) you need Chessbase 8 or Chesbase 9.

How to create a book can not be put in 4 lines of text or a single picture.

Creating a book(more specifically a good book) is a task only for those that does not discourage easily, for those with plenty of time on their hands, for those intelligent enough to be able to search and find hundreds of thousands of engine games, for those willing to test thousands of times different oppenings and correct blunders and bad moves. If someone attempting to create a good book is lacking any of this characteristics, it shouldn't even start the endeavour.

In the other hand, if the person attempting to create a good book has all this characteristics, there are many places in the net with information about this(remember Google is your best friend).

A good start is one of our member's site: http://www.frayerchess.com/

I think someone asking for a single picture on how to create opening books, does not even know what is talking about and the question itself does not deserve to be answered.

I think someone that tells you to rigth click here and there and you'll figure it out by yourself also does not know what is talking about.

Zozur once made a tutorial with pictures, advice and whatnot. I will see if he still has the files necesary to recreate a page and I will post it here.

I am not a book opening expert and I might be wrong in some of my statements, but obviously some people has been misslead here with inacurate answers. So, whatch who you listen to.

There are also some clowns that for some reason keep coming back, these clowns like to answer to posts just to look good and do not care if they are missleding people. These clowns also like to repeat other member phrases like "thanks in advance" or "refrain yourself". These clowns get banned. These clowns do not last long. These clowns are not needed here.

GO AWAY CLOWN
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Re: Strongest book makers

Postby jason1.methews » 16 Apr 2008 13:04

I agree with Matermatiko on boo making part. It requires lots of time to study games, opening and lines and then testing those lines and opening against stronger computers.

Even if you tell other people how to make a strongest book he may not able to make it because of the time and energy which goes in making strongest books. It could me months if not years before you have a nice strong book


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matematiko wrote:Please correctme if I am wrong folks.

Fritz(8,9,10 etc) it is only good to modify books, delete certain lines and stuff like that.

To create an opening book from a database( chessbase or PGN) you need Chessbase 8 or Chesbase 9.

How to create a book can not be put in 4 lines of text or a single picture.

Creating a book(more specifically a good book) is a task only for those that does not discourage easily, for those with plenty of time on their hands, for those intelligent enough to be able to search and find hundreds of thousands of engine games, for those willing to test thousands of times different oppenings and correct blunders and bad moves. If someone attempting to create a good book is lacking any of this characteristics, it shouldn't even start the endeavour.

In the other hand, if the person attempting to create a good book has all this characteristics, there are many places in the net with information about this(remember Google is your best friend).

A good start is one of our member's site: http://www.frayerchess.com/

I think someone asking for a single picture on how to create opening books, does not even know what is talking about and the question itself does not deserve to be answered.

I think someone that tells you to rigth click here and there and you'll figure it out by yourself also does not know what is talking about.

Zozur once made a tutorial with pictures, advice and whatnot. I will see if he still has the files necesary to recreate a page and I will post it here.

I am not a book opening expert and I might be wrong in some of my statements, but obviously some people has been misslead here with inacurate answers. So, whatch who you listen to.

There are also some clowns that for some reason keep coming back, these clowns like to answer to posts just to look good and do not care if they are missleding people. These clowns also like to repeat other member phrases like "thanks in advance" or "refrain yourself". These clowns get banned. These clowns do not last long. These clowns are not needed here.

GO AWAY CLOWN
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Re: Strongest book makers

Postby linasinblues » 18 Apr 2008 03:39

WOW. I GUESS THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE AN OPENING BOOK ARE CLOWNS. LIKE ME. AND THE REST OF YOUR MEMBERS WHO THEMSELVES DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE A BOOK. WE ARE JUST TRYING TO ASK AND NOT MAKE AN ARGUMENT. :crasha :crasha :crasha
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Re: Strongest book makers

Postby dene » 18 Apr 2008 07:39

If you read the post again properly, you will see that no one is calling people who dont know how to make an opening book clowns!

This is the only part of the post with reference to clowns, jugglers and jesters in it...

There are also some clowns that for some reason keep coming back, these clowns like to answer to posts just to look good and do not care if they are missleding people. These clowns also like to repeat other member phrases like "thanks in advance" or "refrain yourself". These clowns get banned. These clowns do not last long. These clowns are not needed here.

GO AWAY CLOWN
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Re: Strongest book makers

Postby matematiko » 18 Apr 2008 20:01

I agree that my statement was strong, but is real. Making books is not for fools. But that does not mean I was calling fools the people that does not know how to make opening books. For example, sending a rocket to the moon is not for fools, I do not know how to send a rocket to the moon but I am sure, very sure that I am not fool.

I am not going to ask you for forgiveness or say sorry because I didnt say anything wrong.

Even the statements I made about the CLOWNS are true, and lets get something straigth here, no need TO confuse people, I WAS REFERING TO CHESSLOVER AND HIS STUPID POST REPLYS, HIS STUPID COMMENTS AND HIS STUPID PERSON AND HIS STUPID ATTITUDE. HE IS THE CLOWN I WAS TAKING ABOUT.

Now, if the suit fits and you want to wear it, that is up to you.

Note to the admin: g00dtr I know you are not going to like the way I handled this, but I am really getting sick and tired of helping people and getting ungreatfulness in return. So please ban me. I do not wish neither want to be part of this forum anymore.

If you do not ban me, I will assume you agree with my attitude, and this the way I am going to be answering stupid questions.....I mean, stupid questions deserve a stupid answers right, assholes like chesslover deserve to be baned right on the spot right?

I HAVE SPOKEN !!!!!
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Let it be known

Postby matematiko » 24 Apr 2008 05:41

I publicaly threw dirt at chesslover and chesslover_not_enemy, yet rex.croatorum925 sent a message to our good administrator asking for advice and saying that I have offended him.

First of all, I didn't offended you. What I said is true. Your replies are meaningless. YOU ARE A CLOWN. You just reply stupidly to get more starts next to your name.

Second, how many fricking IDs you have in this forum? You should have only one. I am baning you pal.

Using engines to cheat:
- It is not ethical,
- It is useless, nothing is gained (how can one be proud of a score earn with dishonesty?)
- You will be baned, sooner or later,
- It gives us (the true chess engine players) a bad reputation.
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