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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby Prima » 29 Dec 2011 03:14

Here's the solution for Using Winboard 4.5.3 + PolyGlot + YaY 3.2.2:

For INI File Settings:
When using INI-file setting for engines, the "problem" of NOT being able to use YaY 3.2.2 + any Winboard version + PolyGlot, lies in INI's EngineName=NameOfEngine option.

To elucidate, let's use Housini 1.5a for example. In EngineName=, instead of putting the engine's name:
Code: Select all
EngineName=Houdini 1.5a x64


Instead,

substitute Houdini 1.5a x64's name for PolyGlot, so that in your INI file, it looks like this instead:
Code: Select all
EngineName=PolyGlot

Problem solved. It now works with Yay 3.2.2.

For fUCI & sUCI Settings:
No solution. Why? That's because the fUCI/sUCI protocol is "direct" in that the actual engine's name can't be manipulated to fool YaY 3.2.2.

So, as can be seen, INI setting is better when using Winboard (of ANY version) + PolyGlot + YaY 3.2.2.
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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby Prima » 29 Dec 2011 03:16

quade1337 wrote:prima do u have instant messenger??? It would be easier to communicate that way

Latest winboard works with chessbase. Latest winboard dosent work with polyglot.
How did u get rid of that message that me and xsupermex are getting?


I just explained it here (page 2 of this thread) polyglot-ini-t1747-15.html
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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby quade1337 » 29 Dec 2011 03:36

syncstop seems to have fixed the problem. ty
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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby Prima » 29 Dec 2011 03:38

quade1337 wrote: syncstop seems to have fixed the problem. ty

My mind was racy before so that the SyncStop=false escaped initial observations. Anyway, good to know the problem is resolved.

Try the solution offered for using YaY 3.2.2 + PolyGlot + Winboard 4.5.3 (or ANY version). All problems should vamoose now.
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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby quade1337 » 29 Dec 2011 03:43

yep all problems are gone. TY.
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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby Prima » 29 Dec 2011 03:45

quade1337 wrote:yep all problems are gone. TY.

Excellent. You're welcome
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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby matematiko » 29 Dec 2011 04:42

Just out of curiosity, why don't you guys use Reborn SE?

Since everyone (except dene) abandoned me in POGO, maybe is time to resurrect YaY In C or C#?

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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby Prima » 29 Dec 2011 05:54

I can't speak for others, but I'm comfortable with YaY - specifically YaY 3.2.2. That's because cheaters and/or thieves can't hide their room-entrance greetings (Hi !) and/or the table-entry greetings. So, I try to encourage and help those looking to use YaY 3.2.2. Besides, Yahoo has that "1/0 thrill" to it. I can't explain it.

Appertaining to Pogo, I have no idea why people aren't playing there. Though Pogo's lag-compensation is a good feature, 1/0 often feels like 1/1. Besides these, you have people like bisknight etc. deliberately leave/ disconnect from game when losing, and sometime Pogo don't adjudicate game-points to the rightful winner.

Then, there are "those" who make it a habitual nuisance to disturb tables with their incessant rants of owning a fictitious Rybka 5 beta (when Rybka 4 beta wasn't even out yet), and also owning a fictional 48 real cores @ 6.0GHz PC (when currently, 12 core PC exists)... :shock: :hhh . If not that, "they're" always in the process of ever-building a fictitious 48-core PC - year after year :hhh

I stopped by Pogo but didn't see anyone from Yahoo to play against. I didn't find anyone.
Anyway, I appreciate the YaY Team's work & gifts :ok
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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby matematiko » 29 Dec 2011 06:37

Prima wrote:Though Pogo's lag-compensation is a good feature, 1/0 often feels like 1/1.


Yes, a 1/0 in POGO feels like a 1/1 in Yahoo (me and dene noticed that 2 years ago). But is more fair, I have no advantage while playing in Texas USA against a guy in India or Antarctica. (Too bad POGO lag compensation scheme IDEA is very good but its implementation was very defective, if your engine used 1.4 seconds thinking, they rounded to 1 second, they do not keep track of fractions of a second used and there is nothing YaY team can do about that).

But it seems that people prefers the trill of 1/0 at Yahoo than the fairness of 1/0 (acting like 1/1) in POGO.

You expressed your opinion, but you did not answer the question, Why some guys do not use Reborn SE?

I am asking this question for a very important reason....assuming that dene and I decide to continue development in YaY, we will do it only as long as there is no competition, do we care about competition? No in the sense that they can not deliver a product better than ours ( they have proved several times their......I will leave it blank).....after YaY not being developed or enhanced in the past two years, looks like they still have ways to catch up.

Their forum still very active, and therefore there must be several people using that software...I just want to know why others prefer YaY 3.2.1 or 3.2.2 instead or Reborn SE.

We do not promise anything....hell...as far as I can remember the source code is lost...we will have to start from scratch. (Although there is a slight chance, if I look hard, that I might have the source code stashed away somewhere).

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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby Prima » 29 Dec 2011 07:03

matematiko wrote:
Prima wrote:Though Pogo's lag-compensation is a good feature, 1/0 often feels like 1/1.


Yes, a 1/0 in POGO feels like a 1/1 in Yahoo (me and dene noticed that 2 years ago). But is more fair, I have no advantage while playing in Texas USA against a guy in India or Antarctica. (Too bad POGO lag compensation scheme IDEA is very good but its implementation was very defective, if your engine used 1.4 seconds thinking, they rounded to 1 second, they do not keep track of fractions of a second used and there is nothing YaY team can do about that).

But it seems that people prefers the trill of 1/0 at Yahoo than the fairness of 1/0 (acting like 1/1) in POGO.

You expressed your opinion, but you did not answer the question, Why some guys do not use Reborn SE?

I am asking this question for a very important reason....assuming that dene and I decide to continue development in YaY, we will do it only as long as there is no competition, do we care about competition? No in the sense that they can not deliver a product better than ours ( they have proved several times their......I will leave it blank).....after YaY not being developed or enhanced in the past two years, looks like they still have ways to catch up.

Their forum still very active, and therefore there must be several people using that software...I just want to know why others prefer YaY 3.2.1 or 3.2.2 instead or Reborn SE.

We do not promise anything....hell...as far as I can remember the source code is lost...we will have to start from scratch. (Although there is a slight chance, if I look hard, that I might have the source code stashed away somewhere).

Regards,


No idea why majority of the mass don't use Reborn SE. Granted I supported them at the inception of Reborn SE, I don't use Reborn SE in the long-term either. It was either YaY or STUCI for me.

True, that Pogo levels the playing field for those with bad lag. This has always been Pogo's main fortitude. However, IMHO, Pogo Server is full of exploit. The exploit has absolutely nothing to do with YaYp/YaY Team & its product. But those Pogo crooks seem to have ways to exploit the Pogo server and this is, perhaps, one of the factors contributing to the decline of people playing there.

I would be a bold-face liar pretending that it makes no difference if the YaY Team never focused Yahoo. So, please come back to Yahoo, or at least consider it. Understandably, YaY Team have made it clear that the possibility of returning to Yahoo is nil to none. Or at least, not a promise of doing so...

I would be at a loss for words IF YaY Team decides to come back to Yahoo. And I earnestly hope the YaY source code is located.
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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby XsupremeX » 29 Dec 2011 11:11

@ Prima, thanks! Works fine with EngineName=PolyGlot. :Bravo

@ Matematiko, because only YaY works in Yahoo. :mrgreen: I think Reborn SE stopped working 1 year ago.
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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby matematiko » 29 Dec 2011 14:21

XsupremeX wrote:@ Matematiko, because only YaY works in Yahoo. :mrgreen: I think Reborn SE stopped working 1 year ago.


A year ago? Nobody is maintaining it? What happened to Sunny I beleive his name was?

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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby unemployed » 29 Dec 2011 17:55

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Re: polyglot.ini

Postby Prima » 30 Dec 2011 02:10

XsupremeX wrote:@ Prima, thanks! Works fine with EngineName=PolyGlot. :Bravo

You're welcome, XsupremeX :wink:

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