Polyglot Fast Contest

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Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby matematiko » 21 Oct 2007 10:09

25 Moves in 7 seconds, I'll post faster openings as soon as I get one.

Post you pics here if they top these ones.

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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby matematiko » 21 Oct 2007 10:34

One more: 106 moves in 19 seconds.
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I have to admit that both bots are using the same oponening book, but nevertheless, looks cool(Ithink).

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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby chess » 21 Oct 2007 19:56

Damn, i want to learn how to do this, too...120 moves in only 30 seconds, i have polygot working too, but it's not as fast as you guys' what is that book stuff, can you inform me?
how do you get it played so fast?
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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby matematiko » 21 Oct 2007 23:26

chess wrote:Damn, i want to learn how to do this, too...120 moves in only 30 seconds, i have polygot working too, but it's not as fast as you guys' what is that book stuff, can you inform me?
how do you get it played so fast?


Chess, like I mentioned above, in this particular case both bots are using a 1.02 gig opening book compiled by me and zozur back in February or so. In reality the game got that far in book moves and not engine moves.

Polyglot is very picky about pgn databases and creating this book was painful and time consuming. We used "Edit Plus 2" to open the large pgn databases and manualy removing erroneous entries.

To make books for polyglot, read the section "Book Making" at http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/details/PolyGlot.html.

There are many tools in the net to clean and normalize pgn databases, we used "PGNTRIM5.EXE". Check the section " PGN Utilities" at http://www.chessville.com/downloads/misc_downloads.htm.
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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby dene » 22 Oct 2007 08:57

matematiko wrote:in this particular case both bots are using a 1.02 gig opening book compiled by me and zozur back in February or so. In reality the game got that far in book moves and not engine moves.




Theres no dought you guys kick ass at 1/0 games :wink:
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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby zappa_engine » 26 Oct 2007 05:40

Okay I tried to top it but I can't reach 120 moves versus these engines :P
Here's what I did get though.
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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby matematiko » 26 Oct 2007 10:57

In average that speed tops the previous one.

:D Congrats :D

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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby m.t_mode » 04 Nov 2007 09:41

Hey Zappa, why dont you just bring all the files that are required for reaching this speed together and post then here if possible? I mean all the files to be installed and all the configuration files (such as your own .ini files) so that the others can easily do that, as well. Because reaching this top speed mustn't be easy at all.
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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby zappa_engine » 04 Nov 2007 12:35

1. STUCI
2. Polyglot
3. Any engine you like

Type 'style 99' in STUCI's ICS command line. It'll trick polyglot into thinking there's 0 seconds to move. Have fun ;)
P.S. It only works for white side at the moment and you'll have to manually flag (type 'flag'). If you need an indicator of time, type 'debug' and you'll figure out soon enough what your time is. It's nice. You get the exact time of moves in milliseconds if you actually pay attention to that spam.
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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby DeepThought » 13 Dec 2007 11:55

zappa_engine wrote:1. STUCI
2. Polyglot
3. Any engine you like

Type 'style 99' in STUCI's ICS command line. It'll trick polyglot into thinking there's 0 seconds to move. Have fun ;)
P.S. It only works for white side at the moment and you'll have to manually flag (type 'flag'). If you need an indicator of time, type 'debug' and you'll figure out soon enough what your time is. It's nice. You get the exact time of moves in milliseconds if you actually pay attention to that spam.


Does it only work on STUCI?
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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby elcriollito » 16 Dec 2007 17:22

Diablos,
you guys like speeding like racing cars,
i had post a pic of a french guy who play 130 moves/1minute ,but this is amazing,this french is a baby compare to you
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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby elcriollito » 18 Dec 2007 19:49

why we don't have a competition at yahoo chess ,we setup the time and date ,take any empty room and start the biggerst competion "the auto-chess competition 2008" hahahahah

i am dreaming right

this is a good example
category
1/0
1/1
2/0
2/2
3/0
3/3
5/0
5/5
10/0
10/10
I don't know,but something like it..with any auto-prog and even human can participate hahhaha
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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby Toga121par » 11 Feb 2008 11:44

I'm not familiar yet with Yahoo-chess, but I think the ultra-fast games maybe related to Marc Lacrosse's experiment's - Ultrafast WbX tournaments package . You can visit his site and look for ideas concerning this discussion.

http://chessbazaar.mylivepage.com/file/index
http://chessbazaar.mlweb.info/index.html
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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby Toga121par » 11 Feb 2008 11:58

I think Harun Taner of chess-Engine Testing yahoo-group has built a very big polyglot book too. I don't know if the rapidshare link was still active. Polyglot is a powerful book-maker. you just need a big collection of strong games and a lot of patience to built it:D.

But I heard some people just collect polyglot books and merge them. I don't know if it will give good results as you don't know how it was built. But there is a procedure to see the book lines (c/o M. Lacrosse's procedure). Maybe the new Scid has this function. Pascal George has been developing Scid to use polyglot's utilities. I'll check this today.
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Re: Polyglot Fast Contest

Postby neo_the_1 » 04 Mar 2008 23:52

Toga121par wrote:I'm not familiar yet with Yahoo-chess, but I think the ultra-fast games maybe related to Marc Lacrosse's experiment's - Ultrafast WbX tournaments package . You can visit his site and look for ideas concerning this discussion.

http://chessbazaar.mylivepage.com/file/index
http://chessbazaar.mlweb.info/index.html

Do u know how to use this package??I hv no idea ..I down loaded it but dont know what to do wt it...it says design a tournament....and etc etc...anyone can help here!!

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