Opening Books (Ctg Format)

Re: Opening Books

Postby Moheevi_chess » 03 Sep 2008 22:30

You can download the book I used with rybka 2.3.2a on my site. The book isn't as good with rybka 3, but it is still a decent book. It plays sicilian lines. Link is in my sig.
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Re: Opening Books

Postby mocha_1961 » 04 Sep 2008 14:30

Moheevi_chess wrote:You can download the book I used with rybka 2.3.2a on my site. The book isn't as good with rybka 3, but it is still a decent book. It plays sicilian lines. Link is in my sig.


i tried your ctg book with a strong player in 10/0 game. did pretty well. :ok
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Re: Opening Books

Postby Moheevi_chess » 05 Sep 2008 01:53

forgot to say that the book was made for 3 min. or 5 min. games
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Re: Opening Books

Postby goldminer999 » 05 Sep 2008 08:11

Hi Moheevi,

I'm interested in how you apply learn from database from your learn base of games.
Do you tick all 4 and do one big learn -white, black, win, loss - or just wins, and if so do you do white wins and black wins separately (in which case would need separate game databsaes) or all wins together?

From the Fritz manual:

Learning from a database
With this function the program learns from the experience of other players. It looks at the games of a database and pretends it has played them itself. On the basis of the results it changes the weights of individual variations. Edit – Openings book – Learn from database displays a dialog box in which you can set a number of learning parameters:

Wins: Only won games are used, the program increases the weights of white moves if White won and black moves if Black won.

Losses: Only losses are considered. If White lost, the white moves are reduced, and if Black lost, the black moves are reduced.

White: The program evaluates the games from the point of view of White only. The weights for white moves are increased if White won, and decreased if White lost.

Black: The weights for black moves are increased if Black won, and decreased if Black lost.

Player: Only considers the games of one specific player in the database.

These five options can be combined in any way you like. You can also restrict the import to a certain number of games in the database by selecting "Games" at the top of the dialog box.


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Re: Opening Books ctg.

Postby XsupremeX » 05 Sep 2008 17:16

Currently Tournament Book Leader: Rybka3.ctg - Congratulations to Jeroen Noomen !

Program Score % Av.Op. Elo + - Draws

01 Rybka3 : 115.5/200 57.8 3095 3149 32 32 55.5 %
02 Magister 2 : 109.5/200 54.8 3097 3130 34 34 49.5 %
03 Compmaster 2b : 108.0/200 54.0 3097 3125 32 32 57.0 %
04 My Book 9.1 : 108.0/200 54.0 3097 3125 29 28 65.0 %
05 Ceko 2.0 : 104.0/200 52.0 3099 3113 32 32 56.0 %
06 Salvo 4.1 : 102.0/200 51.0 3099 3106 32 32 56.0 %
07 SicilianExtreme : 96.5/200 48.2 3101 3089 32 32 55.5 %
08 Takker2008 : 96.0/200 48.0 3101 3087 34 34 51.0 %
09 Ghost 14.2t : 90.0/200 45.0 3103 3068 31 32 57.0 %
10 Playchess : 86.0/200 43.0 3104 3056 34 35 49.0 %
11 Awesome : 84.5/200 42.2 3105 3051 34 34 50.5 %

* Note:
-All books are played by Rybka 3 x64 (using 4 threads)

Information here: http://www.sedatchess.com/scct_book.html
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Re: Opening Books

Postby Moheevi_chess » 05 Sep 2008 22:51

I put all the wins in 1 database and use wins, white, black. Sometimes I experiment and do just wins without white and black checked.
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Re: Opening Books ctg.

Postby goldminer999 » 06 Sep 2008 11:01

Does anyone know whether Magister 2.ctg is available from anywhere ?

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Re: Opening Books ctg.

Postby dene » 06 Sep 2008 17:57

Not as far as I know, ....its a private book.
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New Book Rank

Postby XsupremeX » 11 Sep 2008 03:09

Rank Book: Autor: Elo:

1 Perfect 14 Sedat Canbaz 2786
2 ChessStars-Deluxe Klaus Ritter 2743
3 Spook R3 Kevin Frayer 2741
4 Rybka3 Jeroen Noomen 2733
5 Fritz11.ctg Chessbase ? 2670
6 Compmaster Beta 2.0 Servet Kultur 2667

More information: http://chessstars.de/pageID_5104739.html
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Re: Opening Books ctg.

Postby goldminer999 » 11 Sep 2008 17:19

Perfect 14 is currently at top spot.....and soon Sedat will release an updated version based on the games people have played on Playchess to fix some lines - so should be even stronger. See bottom of this post:

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... l?tid=7295

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Re: Opening Books ctg.

Postby XsupremeX » 11 Sep 2008 18:23

Right goldminer999, It seems Perfect 14 has a terrible weak line playing in playchess.com but soon new Perfect 15 book will be released or someone can fix this line and post updating book... thx
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Re: Opening Books ctg.

Postby XsupremeX » 13 Oct 2008 13:41

Perfect 14 is public and you can get it here:

http://www.sedatchess.com/download.html
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Opening Book by Sedat Canbaz / SedatChess (Date 10-21-2008

Postby XsupremeX » 21 Oct 2008 12:04

Perfect 15 ctg Book. Finally it is available...

http://www.sedatchess.com/perfect15.html

The Perfect 15 book details:

- High-Quality ComputerChess games only of 2008 year
- Books's depth is up to 100 moves
- Manually haned tuned and carefully optimised the strongest lines
- Rybka 3 x64/Zappa Mexico X64 are used on critical opening positions(on hardware QX9650@3.8GHz)
- A lot of new strong lines never played nowhere before
- The Strongest book up to date (tested against availability top books)
- Improved about 50 Elo points stronger than Perfect 14 book
- The Perfect 15 book has been created within 2 month period

It's recommended:

-To use the book options "Optimize", Min games=2,Up to move=100

How to optimize the book under Fritz GUI (by pressing F4):

1.Edit
2.Openings Book
3.Book Options...
4.You must click the button ''Optimize'' , then set the minumum games ''2'' and up to ''100'' moves

How to optimize the book on Playchess server:

1.Edit
2.Playing mode
3.Define Engine
4.Book Options
4.You must click the button "Optimize", Min games=2,Up to move=100

How you can add new moves to the Chessbase books, there are 2 ways :

1.Manually:Right click with mouse on the book,then press ''Allow adding''
2.Automatically:Edit/Opening book/Import Games

Author: Sedat Canbaz,Turkey
Web : http://www.sedatchess.com
Email : info@sedatchess.com

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Re: Opening Books ctg.

Postby XsupremeX » 09 Dec 2008 17:12

This is the book rating we have nowadays December 9th:

Rank Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws

01 Emrebey : 3328 30 29 200 60.0 % 3258 62.0 %
02 Ceko 4.0 : 3318 27 27 280 60.4 % 3245 55.0 %
03 Rebirth1.1 : 3315 28 27 280 60.0 % 3245 54.3 %
04 Yograj V1.0 : 3306 32 31 220 60.0 % 3235 52.7 %
05 My Book 11 : 3275 25 25 340 53.8 % 3248 54.1 %
06 Magnificent 1 : 3266 25 25 340 52.5 % 3249 53.8 %
07 Rybka3 : 3248 23 23 340 49.7 % 3250 62.4 %
08 Xsupx : 3246 26 26 340 49.4 % 3250 50.6 %
09 Ceko 3.0 : 3240 28 28 220 49.8 % 3241 63.2 %
10 Salvo 5 : 3237 24 24 340 48.1 % 3250 57.9 %
11 Compmaster 2b : 3227 25 25 340 46.6 % 3251 53.2 %
12 Spook R3 : 3227 25 25 340 46.6 % 3251 53.2 %
13 Zap!Chess : 3219 25 26 320 45.0 % 3254 55.0 %
14 SicilianRushBeta : 3214 35 35 200 43.8 % 3258 47.5 %
15 ChessmotorAttack II : 3212 34 34 200 43.5 % 3258 50.0 %
16 ChessStars-Light : 3212 33 33 200 43.5 % 3258 53.0 %
17 Magister 2 : 3203 32 32 200 43.8 % 3247 55.5 %
18 Bkv.2.7b : 3200 31 31 260 42.1 % 3256 46.5 %

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Re: Opening Books ctg.

Postby tzekozzzz » 09 Dec 2008 18:12

I hope you like my new book Ceko4.0

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