autochess

[goldminer999]

Hi,

You have not set a path to the bases. Try putting the folder with the tripplebases in a different location for example c:\tripplebases then in the cfg file make tripplebase path = c:\tripplebases. Restart and reload the engine and see if the bases load properly.

[Mat-morir]

thx yes load
but bad motor lose with Rybka

[matematiko]

The link for firebird 1.1 64 bits optimized for i7 does not work...can some one upload and post a download link please?

Thanks,

[XsupremeX]

New links to Bird 1.1, I believe the last 2 links are for i7:

http://www.chesslogik.com/downloads/Fir ... w32_in.rar
http://www.chesslogik.com/downloads/Fir ... w32_ms.rar
http://www.chesslogik.com/downloads/Fir ... 2_ms_k.rar
http://www.chesslogik.com/downloads/Fir ... SSE2_k.rar
http://www.chesslogik.com/downloads/Fir ... x64_in.rar
http://www.chesslogik.com/downloads/Fir ... x64_ms.rar
http://www.chesslogik.com/downloads/Fir ... 4_ms_s.rar

http://www.chesslogik.com/downloads/Fir ... popcnt.rar
http://www.chesslogik.com/downloads/Fir ... popcnt.rar

If you experience an error message while trying to load one of the executables, you may need to download the Microsoft VC++ 2008 Redistributable Package:

32-bit http://www.chesslogik.com/downloads/vcredist_x86.rar
64-bit http://www.chesslogik.com/downloads/vcredist_x64.rar

[matematiko]

Are there TablesBases and/or TotalBases for 6 man?

[XsupremeX]

Nop.

[apwkid]

for analysis you can use shredder's website for end game tables up to 6 man

http://www.shredderchess.com/online-chess/online-databases/endgame-database.html

wont help for normal game play though

[matematiko]

The reason I was asking is because when you launch firebird....the dos prompt says something like this:
"6 man bases: not found"


So go figure

[chess_pr0]

so I downloaded FireBird 1.2 ... Do you got to have the totalbases and triplebases loaded for firebird 1.2 to even work? or downloading the bases only makes the program stronger?
i didnt downloaded none of the bases, and my engine plays in yahoo , what happens if i dont download the bases.. versus downloading them..? im lost.. DO I NEED these bases.. obviously the engine works without the bases, if not then Im not really using firebird 1.2 Also in polyglot ini settings the line that says NalimovPath= what do i put here?.. I finally downloaded and extracted the triplebases into the yay folder now when i run firebird1.2exe it says
info string 286 triplebases loaded<RAM>
The totalbases says info string 0 TotalBases Loaded <HDD>

My biggest concern is for somebody who has firebird 1.2 is.. do u really need the total and triple bases?
does it make the engine play stronger or weaker with or without the bases
and will the engine play without the bases
and if i put the bases into the yay folder with the winboard x folder with it autoload them like it says it has when u run firebird1.2exe . Im new to this program and using YAY so by going by what ive read over the forums, im up to this point and lost, I need assistance with the triplebases and total base steps.

[matematiko]

Let me start by clarifying a misconception lots of people has. People thinks that EGTBs (regardless of the type) are only accessed when you have 6 or 5 men left in the board. This is not true. For example, let's say you have 20 to 7 pieces left in the board, the engine starts analyzing and at a certain depth reaches a position with 6 or 5 men left, then at this point the table bases are accessed, so it is very possible to find a checkmate, with the combined work of the engine and the table bases even when you have more than 6 men left in the board. So, yes, in my opinion, having the table bases helps a lot, not always, but in many occasions it does.

No, you do not need the table bases for the engine to work.

The bases should be place in the same folder where the engine is.

If the table bases are installed correctly, a little cloud will show in WinBoard's engine output window when the engine access them.

Regards,

[Thanderbyrd]

FireBird 1.2 x64 new smp klo

http://www.easy-share.com/1910060217/Fire_12_x64_n

[zappa79]

What is the difference between TotalBases and TripleBases.

As far as I can tell TripleBases are much better since they've 2-3-4-5 Bases and the size is 455MB
While TotalBases is a whopping 3.42GB and only has 3-4-5 Bases.

Can you please give us an explanation eliasgino2007

How can the Totalbases be only 3.42GB when the nalimov tablebases are so much bigger?
Is this a new compression technology, or am I missing something?

Does this mean we are going to see 6-men (and more!) totalbases soon, that is not the size of almost 2 TB?
If yes, then I cant wait to see that!

Is there a program to create own totalbases? I have an i7 so I can help with that!

Thanks for answer!

[zappa79]

Let me start by clarifying a misconception lots of people has. People thinks that EGTBs (regardless of the type) are only accessed when you have 6 or 5 men left in the board. This is not true. For example, let's say you have 20 to 7 pieces left in the board, the engine starts analyzing and at a certain depth reaches a position with 6 or 5 men left, then at this point the table bases are accessed, so it is very possible to find a checkmate, with the combined work of the engine and the table bases even when you have more than 6 men left in the board. So, yes, in my opinion, having the table bases helps a lot, not always, but in many occasions it does.

No, you do not need the table bases for the engine to work.

The bases should be place in the same folder where the engine is.

If the table bases are installed correctly, a little cloud will show in WinBoard's engine output window when the engine access them.

Regards,

Is this the cloud you are talking about?

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If yes, then it is strange becouse I have always seen this cloud, and I have never used any tablebases untill now!

Please clarify!

[matematiko]

Yes

[rich227]

I use arena chess interface with Firebird and placed the triple bases in the same folder with the engine. when you first start the program (Arena) you can see the bases loading into the program. It works great no problems at all. but what I need to know is below...
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I've been hearing around the net that there is a total base also for fire bird. does anyone know where it can be found?????