autochess

[Klapiii]

I also have Windows XP and I have this problem. Any solutions? Maybe for playok it will work great... I use rybka 3 for playing.

[goldilocks]

Looks like chesscube has worked out your application - betamaster was banned (maybe because of this forum!!!) - but then I was banned as well And my rating wasn't even over 1800! I wrote to them and they said it was engine use and they don't have to explain exactly how they know.... I said there is NO WAY I can use an engine for 1 min/10+1, they said they KNOW I cheated... and they will IP ban me if I continue to use an engine......

EDIT: And I was wondering, how can we be sure your app is not telling them anything? I am getting worried about security now...they have my email address and IP address....and even my first name!!! If your app moves the mouse, can it send messages?? My virus scanner did not pick up a virus in your application, but could it be sending messages to you or them? Can anyone tell me if this is possible?

[matematiko]

I dont think there is a need to doubt admax good intentions, his program has nothing to do with how the found you were using an engine.

It is very simple: It they detect somebody made 5 moves in 1 second they can be sure that that somebody was using an engine.

Some day it might even happen in Yahoo. The best chances people that wants to play in those servers have is to convince them to creat an "Engine Room". Saying in the profile that you a program is not enough because not every player reads the opponents profiles.

By the way, were you playing against another program? Or against human players? Because using an engine to play humans is cheater here and in Rusia.

Regards,

[goldilocks]

By the way, were you playing against another program? Or against human players? Because using an engine to play humans is cheater here and in Rusia.

In fairness, yes... I did play against humans (they don't allow engines at all) - but the truth is I never even downloaded the whole version (still need to), so I was just testing autochess... maybe played 10 games max of 20 moves with the engine [the site had some bug with replays too] - I lost some as well after the 20! I know it is cheating - I don't plan on doing it again... it was more curiosity with the technology AND I suspected some players to be using engines as well..... I really don't want to get banned again, so until they let us use engines, I have no plans to do this again - it kind of freaked me out (I suddenly saw a ban message!)

Also... there is no way they picked up 5 moves in a second - the app is quite slow on my computer (maybe 1 move every second or two)... so maybe just engine analysis? (but I played on from 20 moves anyway....THIS is why I got concerned that the app was telling them something). I am sorry if it sounded paranoid with admax, I can't think of how they caught me so quickly... maybe they have robot engines that play to test users... but still, that is just 20 moves - most moves could be opening theory - so between maybe move 13 and 20 could be only engine moves (and then I move from 20), so there seems like little way they can say there is a high correlation. Maybe just a lucky guess?

(no, my name on there was not the same as on this forum.... in case they were watching this thread!)

Oh well, it was kind of fun to try - but I was a user there for over a year - and it sucks to lose that account - thanks admax for the tech... my fault alone for trying it out. If I try it again, it will be on some account (yahoo?) that I don't care about losing ... and yes, matematiko, against engine users only!!!

[admax]

i am trying to help people with autoplay

if you 're afraid or if you doubt about it, dont try my program, but please dont tell my prog is a virus/trojan !!!

you should say "thanks" instead :p

[goldilocks]

i am trying to help people with autoplay
if you 're afraid or if you doubt about it, dont try my program, but please dont tell my prog is a virus/trojan !!!
you should say "thanks" instead :p

I did say thanks!! And I DON'T think there is a virus or trojan - so again for anyone who thinks otherwise - I scanned your software and found NO VIRUS - my main concern was why I was "discovered" so quickly... maybe your app sends instructions that have changed?!

Did they tell you why you were banned? You must have used it a LOT of times to get to 3000! (That ban seems more obvious than my one)

[Klapiii]

I didn't become banned on chesscube.com, though I played there a bit party. I informed my opponent before every party, that I'm using a program. If someone agreed then he included the program also. I don't understand people which play against other people with program and they don't inform them, that they deceive. I don't know what satisfaction is when we win against alive opponent with playing machine, which never makes a mistake? Beyond this, this program doesn't act already, because on chesscube.com they found out that some people cheated, they looked at this topic and they changed some things in settings so, to this program wasn't able to move pieces.

Regards,

[matematiko]

goldilocks,

The 5 moves per second was just an example....even two moves per second its too fast for a human I think.

Regards,

[goldilocks]

goldilocks,

The 5 moves per second was just an example....even two moves per second its too fast for a human I think.

Regards,

Hi Matematiko - on chesscube there is no-penalty premove - which means you can actually make 5? 10? 50? moves in 0 seconds!

[ziza1]

10-15 moves is enough to catch you
Of course in case you are an GM ...fritz,rybka and other chess programs they have almost same opening book..
I was banned too, they have a detection software like in playchess or ICC , so it's almost impossible to cheat there.

I have question: Can i use this program in Yahoo?

[matematiko]

goldilocks,

The 5 moves per second was just an example....even two moves per second its too fast for a human I think.

Regards,

Hi Matematiko - on chesscube there is no-penalty premove - which means you can actually make 5? 10? 50? moves in 0 seconds!

I dont know about this cause I dont play there but I know this: the premoves must be legal moves. So I seriously doubt you can premoved 10 times, much less 50 times, and even if you could, in one second? come on...

[goldilocks]

I dont know about this cause I dont play there but I know this: the premoves must be legal moves. So I seriously doubt you can premoved 10 times, much less 50 times, and even if you could, in one second? come on...

Hehehe - yes, I know - it is unlikely - but I have seen a whole game 30+ moves played without the person losing a second on his clock in a bullet game! (We were seeing who could do more moves). Basically, if you have a. an opponent that is significantly worse than you b. a slow opponent (so you can think during their time and place the premove) c. Some luck so your premove is not illegal... it is possible to make lots of moves. But - bringing this back to autochess - I don't think the speed of moves is what caught me - more likely picking up correlation like ziza says for 10-20 moves.... or something else that detected the app....

[sasuke]

admax thank you so much for your contribution and this project of yours. and anyone who plays at chesscube dont post your chesscube id here. admax can you put version number on your program ? and put them on the first page of this topic ? so whenever there is a new version we can check the first page of this topic and donwload the latest version !

and autochess admin can u please make a new section for Chesscube ! so that we can test your(admax's) program and report bugs. this is probably the first chesscube auto out there. excellent work Admax. and keep it up.

[sasuke]

Admax i have some questions.

1. how to spawn a Queen when my soldier is on the other side. your program says "press numpad" but which number ? i had to manually click the Queen to spawn it.
2. is it possible to add more opening books ? and where to get endgame table base ?
3. for longer games like 15mins games.. can i slow down this auto a bit. if so how.
4. i have Rybka 3... but it doesnt work properly. is it Rybka 3 compatible ?
5. can you make an option to configure the engine. like in Fritz or any other Chessbase programs.


but once again i must thank you for this !

[admax]

1. how to spawn a Queen when my soldier is on the other side. your program says "press numpad" but which number ? i had to manually click the Queen to spawn it.

in fact when you promote a queen, the program pauses, you have to click on the queen in chesscube with your mouse and when it appears, then press 0 (numpad). (i made this because else it can confuse screen detection) so just press numpad 0 when you clicked the queen.

2. is it possible to add more opening books ? and where to get endgame table base ?

no you can work with only 1 polyglot book in the game, but you can find good topics here about how to merge 2 or more books. you can get tablebases in arena website, i downloded them here : http://www.playwitharena.de/download/4-pieces-tbs.zip if you have good internet connection, you should download 5pieces TB but it is very big, i remember maybe 7 or 8 Go.

3. for longer games like 15mins games.. can i slow down this auto a bit. if so how.

if you want to play 15 min change time=900 (15*60 seconds) in the ini file.

4. i have Rybka 3... but it doesnt work properly. is it Rybka 3 compatible ?

it works perfectly for me and other guys...

5. can you make an option to configure the engine. like in Fritz or any other Chessbase programs.

i am new in programming and i dont have time right now : its summer holidays!!



PS : very happy you like it i know my program rocks