autochess

[admax]

20 moves is enough to win a weak player :p

ok, waiting for other comments, thanks for yours !

[Klapiii]

You will send version for playok?

[matematiko]

I had let this topic to go on just out of curiosity...but my suspicious are confirmed....this guy "admax" is gonna do with you what drug dealers do with drug addict victims...he is gonna try to let you get "hooked" to his program...with 10 or 20 moves limits and then once you are hooked, sell to you the full version for 100 bucks or so. A version that is subject to a server validation..meaning that:
-If you give it to someone else (even in your own home network) your are scrwed( because his copy protection scheme will look at what is called "hardware signature").
-Even if you do not give it to someone else, just by adding a new piece of hardware to your computer(like a new hard drive or a new sound card or a new video card) you will be scrwed because your hardware signature will change and won't comply with the hardware signature your license was registered with.
-It will have a 3, 6 or 12 months expiration time.
-You will be subject to his "validation server" availability, meaning that if that server is down, your program will never get "the green light" to continue.

On top of all that, this program sucks, dont have auto boot...dont have auto messages or rating validation and the list goes on....or auto-warning to tell human players we are a program....This program is for cheaters...and what comes around goes around and cheaters will be cheated out of their money....



So, continue with this at your own risk...you had been warned.

Note: Stuci and YaY are free....Yahoo has more program engine players than any other chess server in the world are any given time..so why go to these other servers?

[admax]

you said "On top of all that, this program sucks, dont have auto boot...dont have auto messages or rating validation and the list goes on....or auto-warning to tell human players we are a program...."

you just have to write it in your profile : "i am a computer, not human player"

i dont say that cheating is good, and i made my own program to improve my knowledge of c++ programming, chess programming

i think that yahoo server is boring and "new" chess servers are better (interface, tournaments, ranking .. ) like playok or chesscube, but i repeat, you can specify in your profile that you play with computer, so that people playing you know that...

i dont expect to sell my prog and it is possible that i give it for free soon.

i would like to get maximum comments about it, thats all

[matematiko]

i dont expect to sell my prog and it is possible that i give it for free soon.

In that case please accept my sincere apologies...for some reason I strongly beleive that you are Jeff, the same guy from yprogs dot net but I could be wrong (he codes in delphi I think), my strong comment is based in the fact that you had not released a full working free version and have the suspicion that you are planing on having the copy/share protection method that I mentioned and I despite/hate very much, but again: I could be wrong.

The cheating comment in part is based in the fact that you said that 10-20 moves are enough to checkmate a weak player. I've been auto-chess-playing for years and the only "weak" players that will lose in less than 20 moves are human players. Additionally, I do not beleive that a human player has to go to the trouble of reading a profile to see if he is playing against a computer or a human, I am in favor of an instataneous automatic warning.

I do really hope you release your program for free so more people can use it and give you feedback which will improve your c++ knowledge.

Until I see a free fully working release my suspicious won't change, so I won't delete my previous post. This is one of those rare cases that I will be very happy if they prove me wrong....so please, prove me wrong, for the benefit of the auto-chess community please PROVE ME WRONG.

[admax]

please dont tell me i am Jeff or someone else, i am FRENCH and i guess i am the first with working autochess in chesscube and some other chess servers : people had never seen autoplay in chesspark and chesscube, they couldnt believe their eyes when i was playing there.

i am like you , if a software is not free, i will never buy it but prefer do my program or find another solution. did you know i learnt c++ 6 months ago? i am new in chess programming but i am always curious and want to learn more. My real job is that i am a math teacher and thats why i like your nickname

and i would like to tell that you seemed to hate me, or hate the program i just coded in your past message: just let me tell you, and dont be angry, that you only take crazycomputer's work (the creator of ytoics) and just modify his code....its quite easy , and easier than do the entire project!! if you have an auto-boot, an auto-start and other auto-message, and you seem to like it, its just because crazycomputer did it first

for me, i cant say i like or dislike what you did, because i prefer my work than other's work, but could you tell me what do you think of my program if you have the time to try it?!


pas: as you see , my english sucks , and i repeat i am a French

[matematiko]

I said that I hate the copy protection method that I assume (base on the fact that I thougth you were someone else) you are or were going to implement, not your program.

And yes making a program like yours requieres a lot of work, there is not doubt about that, but that's because you are trying to reinvent the wheel by inserting polyglot and winboard and whatever else code in there.

So yes, no doubt you are working hard and I respect that, but unfortunatelly from my point of view your efforts are rendering a program tha lacks of the features that winboard/polyglot/yay (or winboard/winboard232d/Fritz/yay) have.

I never said I am a better programmer than you are. Concerning crazycomputers, I have always given him the credit he deserves and I always said that YaY is based on his work.

Yes, crazycomputers did the hardest part, but if you think it is easy to fix it every time Yahoo changes something, like adding the CAPTCHA login scheme, you are wrong. Or even better, we bypassed the CAPTCHA scheme by cracking the flash server comunication protocol and that was not easy, even seasoned programmers that do that for a leaving coudnt do it (The Reborn team), they tried and failed. Modifying YtoICS to make YaY, does not requieres lots of coding effort, you are absolutely right about that, but it requieres hundreds of hours of packet sniffing, hundreds of hours of beta testing, lots of hours writting the documentation, so please do not try to diminish our efforts just because your program requieres more coding.

It is my personal opinion that all that time you have invested in your program, you should have investead instead in cracking the communications protocol with those servers, then take YtoICS code and modify it accordingly and let WinBoard and Polyglot do their job.

If your interest is learning c++ and the challange of integrating winboard and polyglot code into your program, then you are doing the right thing, but if your interest is providing users with a good program full of features then you are not.

Regards,

[admax]

enjoy the full version unlimited ... 100% free

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CJ8FL6LH

try to do better than my 3000 rating in chesscube (nick: betamaster)

and dont forget to tell in your profile that you 're using engine :p !!!!!!

[Klapiii]

Thanx for this Nice program, but why you don't compile it to one .exe file (e.g. "Internetchesskiller") and add the same options which killer have?

any other comments? i will send next for playok chess server

When you will send it? Or tell us how to configure your program for playok

EDIT: I wrote in kurnik.txt file on the server folder these parameters:
brd=000000
hlight=009900
inc=5

It can move but it don't recognize opponent moves and make very bad moves (e.g. moving queen on opponent knight range...). I don't know what I will do to make it working...

[dene]

enjoy the full version unlimited ... 100% free

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CJ8FL6LH

try to do better than my 3000 rating in chesscube (nick: betamaster)

and dont forget to tell in your profile that you 're using engine :p !!!!!!

Nice contribution to autochess

[admax]

for playok you need less parameters than for chesscube !!!

chesscube was the hardiest chess server for my autoplay to work.

if you want an autoplay for playok, it is smaller .exe

i will send it when i'll have time....

waiting for your comments about chesscube.

Thanx for this Nice program, but why you don't compile it to one .exe file (e.g. "Internetchesskiller") and add the same options which killer have?

i think that my soft is very nice: one folder for the engine, another for the book, another for tablebase, and ini file for config... dont you like it?!


and dont forget: i am learning c++ , i am a newbie

[XsupremeX]

Question: Can you take this prog to Yahoo Games with some modifications?!

[admax]

yes! i can use my autoplay on every chess board, i just have to add some configuration file in the *servers* folder. you can see chesscube.txt for chesscube, and i have yahoo.txt for yahoo, playok.txt for playok ... Recognize a chessboard works the same for all those servers ... so the main program is the same, only config files change ...

[Klapiii]

for playok you need less parameters than for chesscube !!!

chesscube was the hardiest chess server for my autoplay to work.

if you want an autoplay for playok, it is smaller .exe

i can use my autoplay on every chess board, i just have to add some configuration file in the *servers* folder. you can see chesscube.txt for chesscube, and i have yahoo.txt for yahoo, playok.txt for playok ... Recognize a chessboard works the same for all those servers ... so the main program is the same, only config files change ...

I don't understand now... One.exe file is to all servers or it's different to every? You wrote, that to playok is necessary smaller .exe file than to chesscube. Explain this more exactly.

i will send it when i'll have time....

waiting for your comments about chesscube.

i think that my soft is very nice: one folder for the engine, another for the book, another for tablebase, and ini file for config... dont you like it?!


and dont forget: i am learning c++ , i am a newbie

I wait for your program for playok.com. You say that you think your software is very nice. Okay I agree with it but I think that program with only one .exe file is better. Look at Internetchesskiller. In this software you can choose server, time of game (in minutes and in seconds ) engine, and many other options (hash, pv lines, debug, "switch off engine, when opponent move", increment (sec), lag time (ms), graphical "recognize state"). You can also increase or decrease time for white or black when you are playing (often is variance in time between autoplay and server). Your program have many of this options but you must enter it manually in folders and files... This is some inconvenience and if you will compile it to one .exe file it will be more useful. I don't think that your program is bad, it's very good but if you can change this what I exchanged it will be good solution. If you really are newbie in C++ I think that this program is beginning of your "career" with programming

My favourite chess server is playok.com. I don't like chesscube.com (I don't know why). And that's why I want your autoplay for playok.com.

Your autoplay plays good but the first move is slow (especially at black) and the timer is other on chesscube and program window (program doesn't starting timer while it make book moves and slow start make variance between server and autoplay)... Can you repair it?

Regards,

[admax]

i dont know , some people told me that it works slow for them too...

for me it plays very fast in chesscube, and here i used to play 10sec+1 games!!!! faster than 1min games!! so i can tell it works great !


in fact i dont have the time to make one .exe file and config within the main program.... maybe in future....


for chesscube: it is a special .exe , bigger than .exe for other chess servers, but the folder are the same : engine, book, tb and servers . fOR all other servers, except chesscube, it is the same .exe

thanks


PS: i am using Windows XP and not vista!!!! maybe this is why board recognize is slower in vista... i have no problem with win XP + 1024x768 or more screen resolution