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[XsupremeX]

It is a private book.

[iTzaFiShY]

Anyone know where I can download the best Polyglot opening books from? Im looking at the raitpref.hotbox.ru site to see the tests and would like to know where I can get the RpC-SF-*.bin and komodo.bin and such really good polyglot books from. Thanks to all who reply

[matematiko]

Hi,

The best polyglot opening books are private. Actually you can apply this statement to any type of books.

Search this forum. Somewhere in here XsupremeX has posted the results of some bin books tournaments. Once you know what you are looking for maybe a Google search will render a download link.

Cheers,

[iTzaFiShY]

Thanks matematiko, I did just what you said but sadlt most are private, so I found the highest rated public book for download.

[Stoneface]

Hi,
I use Houdini 1.5a w64-bit and use mostly the Performance & Varied books from Marc Lacrosse. I've also the Large_book. The TDDBII & TDDBIIa plus the original book that's with Winboard 4.5.2 now. Beside that i like to play against the Chessmaster9000 & Chessmaster11-GrandMaster edition. I like the way that interface looks, also good for beginners to learn.

But my question is, what's now for the moment the best Polyglot opening book? Is it still the TDDBIIa maybe pls? ?
Thx in front everyone, if want to know little more of me, can see it on my Profile (not much on it for the moment)


Stoneface

[XsupremeX]

Go to Polyglot Book Tourney Section:

testing-open-books-polyglot-t937-60.html

[Stoneface]

Go to Polyglot Book Tourney Section:

testing-open-books-polyglot-t937-60.html

Thank you lots Supreme. Nice to check these list. I was also trying the "book.bin from Stockfish 2.1.1" , a very good&big one too. But i still prefer the 'performance.bin", not too big and effective also! Further i never worked with/in PolyGlot .bin book files, so.
Can i ask wich tool or application or editor or program you guys use to open, change or make a .bin Polyglot-format opening book pls? I have this one Binedit from http://binaryeditor.com.ar but if i open for example performance.bin with it, then i only see unreadable special characters wich i don't/can't understand that at all though & if i try to select those characters plus click translate, nothing changed thus it stay the same. I tried to open it with Visual Basic ~ C++, this also not worked & didn't opened cause it asked to install an 'application for .bin files'. So I'd like to see the 'complete opening repertoire' from certain books but can't find a GOOD program to open them so i can Read them my friend!!
If that works, is it also possible to make & create to combine two ".bin Polyglot opening book in one and how to do that?

Thx again

[XsupremeX]

You need a program called SCID. This prog can be found in our forum, also here you can find how to modify your bin book. Use the tool of the forum "Search".

[matematiko]

If that works, is it also possible to make & create to combine two ".bin Polyglot opening book in one and how to do that?
Thx again

I keep telling people to never combined two full books. The best solutions is to create a book for whites and a book for blacks then combine them.

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Besides SCID, there is also an experimental version of WinBoard that edits bin books but I have never used it and do not know anything about. If interested please read this topic:
http://www.open-aurec.com/wbforum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=51747

They start talking about how to delete moves and then the topic changes to WinBoard being able to edit bin books.

Good luck,

[XsupremeX]

I have downloaded this experimental winboard to edit bin books, kind complicated in my first look. Better SCID !

Good Luck !!!

[Stoneface]

You need a program called SCID. This prog can be found in our forum, also here you can find how to modify your bin book. Use the tool of the forum "Search".

I go look for it, thx for the fast respons. Is Scid free to download also?

[Stoneface]

If that works, is it also possible to make & create to combine two ".bin Polyglot opening book in one and how to do that?
Thx again

I keep telling people to never combined two full books. The best solutions is to create a book for whites and a book for blacks then combine them.

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Besides SCID, there is also an experimental version of WinBoard that edits bin books but I have never used it and do not know anything about. If interested please read this topic:
http://www.open-aurec.com/wbforum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=51747

They start talking about how to delete moves and then the topic changes to WinBoard being able to edit bin books.

Good luck,

I have 2 repertoires created in pgn format, 1 for white & 1 for black. So it's also possible to put pgn's in a .bin Polyglot book file either then?? I hope i find out how to do or that someone can tell me. Thx my friends

[matematiko]

Just read the text files that come with polyglot, instructions are there. Or go to this site:
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/details1/PolyGlot.html

Good luck,

[Stoneface]

Just read the text files that come with polyglot, instructions are there. Or go to this site:
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/details1/PolyGlot.html

Good luck,

I've read this file allready before, i know how to work in .sys, .bat, .ini files since 1993 and that isn't a problem, .bin files is what i'm trying to do, anyway thank you my friend. I only try to find out how to put my pgn files into a complete new Polyglot .bin book. The rest works fine with Scid & easy, much easier then with the Winboard, how to change, add & save it. I go try to make a new one with my 1700+ personal files i have for white - black separatly & then a 3th one for both collors together. It's my personal complete Repertoire i used when played tournaments in the past, i had a rating of 2135elo. If someone want, i've also almost all pgn's from GM's Max Euwe, Karpov, Kasparov. Only from Kasparov alone is almost 2000 pgn games i have, so no problem to ask.
Anyway i hope to find out how to include pgn's into a new .bin book. Take care & have a nice weekend to all !

For example you can test the optimal Split_Depth from an engine by put 4 pretty difficult boardpositions & analyze them for 35sec with the split of 10 to 14, the highest nodes/sec is the split depth you can set into your .ini file. Default to Houdini for 4quad-core i5 & i7 CPU's is Split_Depth = 10, other number of cores can do this test!!
Here an example from the .ini i made for optimize Houdini 1.5a x64 to play in Winboard 4.5.2, extra include the commands at the end from the Gaviota EGTB i have downloaded all of them till 5 gtb from the type ctp4 & the "TB probe code":


[Polyglot]

EngineName = Houdini 1.5a x64
EngineDir = C:\Arena\Engines\Houdini_15a
EngineCommand = Houdini_15a_x64.exe

Book = true
OwnBook = true
BookFile = C:\WinBoard-4.5.2\Houdini_15a\performance.bin
BookRandom = false

Log = false
LogFile = C:\WinBoard-4.5.2\Houdini_15a\houdini.log

Resign = true
ResignMove = 2
ResignScore = 510

ScoreWhite = true


[Engine]

Hash = 128
Threads = 2
Split_Depth = 12
Ponder = true
Contempt = 1
Analysis_Contempt = true
MultiPV = 1
GaviotaTbPath = C:\WinBoard-4.5.2\WinBoard\gtb
GaviotaTbCache = 64
Hard_Probe_Depth = 24
Soft_Probe_Depth = 16
Own Book = true
Book File = C:\WinBoard\Houdini_15a\performance.bin
Best Book Move = true

use_tablebase = on
tb_decoding_scheme = 4
tb_probing_depth = 3
tb_cache = on
tb_cache_size = 64 M
tb_path_1 = "C:\WinBoard-4.5.2\WinBoard\gtb/"
tb_path_2 = "C:\Arena\TB\gtb.cp4\gtb3-4-5/"
tb_path_3 = ""
tb_path_4 = ""

[XsupremeX]

Have a folder and put into this some files (PGN file + polyglot.exe).

Open the Prompt of Commands and set the path to this new folder you created.

Example, imagine you made a new folder called Games in C:\YaY_Ultimate_3\Games. And in this Games folder you put the files polyglot.exe and your PGN file.

Then in Prompt you have to type ---> cd C:\YaY_Ultimate_3\Games , it will then look like this

---> C:\YaY_Ultimate_3\Games>

Now you ready to start making your bin books using your PGN file. Just need type the commands in your Prompt. Here are the commands:

1. Simple One (small bin book):

polyglot make-book -pgn MYGAMES.pgn -bin MYBIN.bin -max-ply 100

2. Multiple One (big bin book):

polyglot make-book -min-game 1 -uniform -only-white -pgn MYGAMES.pgn -bin w1.bin
polyglot make-book -min-score 50 -only-white -pgn MYGAMES.pgn -bin w2.bin
polyglot make-book -min-game 1 -uniform -only-black -pgn MYGAMES.pgn -bin b1.bin
polyglot make-book -min-score 40 -only-black -pgn MYGAMES.pgn -bin b2.bin
polyglot merge-book -in1 w1.bin -in2 w2.bin -out w.bin
polyglot merge-book -in1 b1.bin -in2 b2.bin -out b.bin
polyglot merge-book -in1 w.bin -in2 b.bin -out MYBIN.bin

If you wanna merge some books you have, here is the 3rd command:

3. Merge Bin Books:

polyglot merge-book -in1 MYBOOK1.bin -in2 MYBOOK2.bin -out NEWMERGEDBOOK.bin