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Re: all proplems

Postby matematiko » 02 Oct 2011 01:30

Johnbits wrote:Hi all, how can you change your rating if you have just started using YaY chess? For Pogo which I am more familiar with they have a Padder which allows you to boost up your rating as you don't want to be playing humans to do this. You can usually look at peoples ratings and also by typing ^yayp to tell who else is availible to play engine maches. But right now with my low rating at Yahoo I won't be able to get any games unless I find a YaY player who will adjust his differential rating to allow me to play. Would appreciate help with this.

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The "padder" word/concept or whatever it is, stays with who ever invented/applied to POGO, we the developers of YaY and YaYp call it "Booster" , "Boosting", etc.

YaY is not longer developed/maintained even thou still works, we never found the time to create a booster but "Yahoo Game Owner" I think it has a booster for Chess, you will need to do your research on this. Other than that you can manually boost but of course you knew that.

Be aware that booster for Yahoo work in a different way than pogo. In Yahoo a game has to be on for at least 30 seconds to become legal, in other words, if a player resigns or gets checkmated in less than 30 seconds the ratings won't change so this is a disadvantage compare to POGO. Ah, but Yahoo booster have and advantage, you can log in several players at the time and each player can be in 1,2 or up to 3 tables I think, so this is good for "Chain Booster".

I have a simple (one to one) booster for POGO but I havent found the time to obfuscated and make a public release, perhaps in the future, perhaps never.

Regards,
Using engines to cheat:
- It is not ethical,
- It is useless, nothing is gained (how can one be proud of a score earn with dishonesty?)
- You will be baned, sooner or later,
- It gives us (the true chess engine players) a bad reputation.
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Re: all proplems

Postby Johnbits » 02 Oct 2011 02:48

matematiko wrote:
Johnbits wrote:Hi all, how can you change your rating if you have just started using YaY chess? For Pogo which I am more familiar with they have a Padder which allows you to boost up your rating as you don't want to be playing humans to do this. You can usually look at peoples ratings and also by typing ^yayp to tell who else is availible to play engine maches. But right now with my low rating at Yahoo I won't be able to get any games unless I find a YaY player who will adjust his differential rating to allow me to play. Would appreciate help with this.

John Bits


The "padder" word/concept or whatever it is, stays with who ever invented/applied to POGO, we the developers of YaY and YaYp call it "Booster" , "Boosting", etc.

YaY is not longer developed/maintained even thou still works, we never found the time to create a booster but "Yahoo Game Owner" I think it has a booster for Chess, you will need to do your research on this. Other than that you can manually boost but of course you knew that.

Be aware that booster for Yahoo work in a different way than pogo. In Yahoo a game has to be on for at least 30 seconds to become legal, in other words, if a player resigns or gets checkmated in less than 30 seconds the ratings won't change so this is a disadvantage compare to POGO. Ah, but Yahoo booster have and advantage, you can log in several players at the time and each player can be in 1,2 or up to 3 tables I think, so this is good for "Chain Booster".

I have a simple (one to one) booster for POGO but I havent found the time to obfuscated and make a public release, perhaps in the future, perhaps never.

Regards,
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Re: all proplems

Postby Johnbits » 06 Oct 2011 19:55

g00dtr wrote:Share all your problems here with us.

Hi would appreciate some help with this.
1) I can log on with YaY and create a table and use shout to see myself, but other than that I'm invisible. Cannot see my id if I use the who command. If i create a table and use command find 1/0 aslo do not see my id. Using games command same thing. Why am I invisible and how can I change this?
2) Does anyone know where I can get a working copy of chain booster or any other booster I can use? I tryed chain booster 2.7 beta but not working or mybe files missing.

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Re: all proplems

Postby matematiko » 06 Oct 2011 23:21

Johnbits wrote:
g00dtr wrote:Share all your problems here with us.

Hi would appreciate some help with this.
1) I can log on with YaY and create a table and use shout to see myself, but other than that I'm invisible. Cannot see my id if I use the who command. If i create a table and use command find 1/0 aslo do not see my id. Using games command same thing. Why am I invisible and how can I change this?
2) Does anyone know where I can get a working copy of chain booster or any other booster I can use? I tryed chain booster 2.7 beta but not working or mybe files missing.

John Bits


Seems that Yahoo is logging the main ID and not the profile you are trying to log in. But I can be wrong, just my two cents. Check if one of the users listed with the "who" command rings a bell.

Regards,
Using engines to cheat:
- It is not ethical,
- It is useless, nothing is gained (how can one be proud of a score earn with dishonesty?)
- You will be baned, sooner or later,
- It gives us (the true chess engine players) a bad reputation.
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Re: all proplems

Postby Johnbits » 07 Oct 2011 06:40

matematiko wrote:
Johnbits wrote:
g00dtr wrote:Share all your problems here with us.

Hi would appreciate some help with this.
1) I can log on with YaY and create a table and use shout to see myself, but other than that I'm invisible. Cannot see my id if I use the who command. If i create a table and use command find 1/0 aslo do not see my id. Using games command same thing. Why am I invisible and how can I change this?
2) Does anyone know where I can get a working copy of chain booster or any other booster I can use? I tryed chain booster 2.7 beta but not working or mybe files missing.

John Bits


Seems that Yahoo is logging the main ID and not the profile you are trying to log in. But I can be wrong, just my two cents. Check if one of the users listed with the "who" command rings a bell.

Regards,


As always thanks again for your help! I did not see my other id today when this happened again, only the id I logged in with.
When I first log on I see my id saying "Hi" though. But tryed more than once and sometimes works. This is with my alias id. My main id seems to be ok though. I wanted to use my alias id with YaY. I downloaded YaY 3.2.2 and will try again.

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Re: all proplems

Postby matematiko » 07 Oct 2011 12:39

Concerning profiles (or aliases) see:
http://www.autochess.com/forum/post11465.html?hilit=profile#p11465

Y do not think they work anymore.

Good luck
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- It is not ethical,
- It is useless, nothing is gained (how can one be proud of a score earn with dishonesty?)
- You will be baned, sooner or later,
- It gives us (the true chess engine players) a bad reputation.
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Re: all proplems

Postby Johnbits » 07 Oct 2011 22:35

matematiko wrote:Concerning profiles (or aliases) see:
http://www.autochess.com/forum/post11465.html?hilit=profile#p11465

Y do not think they work anymore.

Good luck


Thanks Matematiko, it's working now.

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Re: all proplems

Postby angvl » 16 Dec 2011 17:38

Hi all! Im new here and i think this a great forum! I started today using YAY 3.2.2 ultimate flash edition and i dont know which port to use to connect. I tried the ports but i still cant connect. Any tip please?
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Re: all proplems

Postby angvl » 16 Dec 2011 17:43

Ok i found what was the prob!
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Re: all proplems

Postby angvl » 16 Dec 2011 18:00

''kibitzes: Welcome joseph_rene430, I am not in autostart.'' Hi again i dont want this message to be shown is there any function to do this? Thx in advance!
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Re: all proplems

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Re: all proplems

Postby angvl » 18 Dec 2011 19:13

HI all!! When i put hiarcs 13.2 mp in YaY, i connect to yahoo, i start a game but it doesnt move! What am i doing wrong? Any tip?

Thx in advance!! This is my polyglot.ini file


EngineName=HIARCS 13.2 MP
EngineDir=C:\YaY_Ultimate_3\Winboard_X\Hiarcs 13.2 MP
EngineCommand=Hiarcs 13.2 MP
Book=true
BookFile=C:\YaY_Ultimate_3\Winboard_X\RpCSF1.4.1\muownbook.bin
Log=false
LogFile=HIARCS132MP.log
Resign=false
ResignMoves=3
UCIVersion=1
ShowPonder=true
CanPonder=false
SyncStop=false
PromoteWorkAround=false
KibitzMove=false
KibitzPV=false
KibitzCommand=tellall
KibitzDelay=5

[Engine]
Licensed To=hiarcs 13
Core Threads=2
CPU Usage=100
Busy Threads=true
OwnBook=false
Book Learning=true
Book Mode=Tournament
Book Positions=2414780
Book Status=Hiarcs13aBook.hcs OK
Use Tablebases=Normally
Swindle Opponent=true
NalimovCache=32
NalimovPath=
Hash=512
Retain Hash=true
Position Learning=true
Smart Search=true
Optimistic Search=true
Combinations=true
Hiarcs Draw Value=0
Search Selectivity=4
Playing Style=Solid
Hyper-Modern Play=true
GUI Time Lag=false
AutoSave PGN=true
UCI_Elo=3000
UCI_LimitStrength=false
UCI_SearchMoves=true
UCI_ShowCurrLine=false
UCI_Chess960=false
MultiPV=1
Ponder=true
UCI_EngineAbout=HIARCS 13.2 MP Copyright (c) 2010 Applied Computer Concepts Ltd. All rights reserved. www.hiarcs.com
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Re: all proplems

Postby Prima » 18 Dec 2011 20:31

angvl wrote:HI all!! When i put hiarcs 13.2 mp in YaY, i connect to yahoo, i start a game but it doesnt move! What am i doing wrong? Any tip?

Thx in advance!! This is my polyglot.ini file


EngineName=HIARCS 13.2 MP
EngineDir=C:\YaY_Ultimate_3\Winboard_X\Hiarcs 13.2 MP
EngineCommand=Hiarcs 13.2 MP
Book=true
BookFile=C:\YaY_Ultimate_3\Winboard_X\RpCSF1.4.1\muownbook.bin
Log=false
LogFile=HIARCS132MP.log
Resign=false
ResignMoves=3
UCIVersion=1
ShowPonder=true
CanPonder=false
SyncStop=false
PromoteWorkAround=false
KibitzMove=false
KibitzPV=false
KibitzCommand=tellall
KibitzDelay=5

[Engine]
Licensed To=hiarcs 13
Core Threads=2
CPU Usage=100
Busy Threads=true
OwnBook=false
Book Learning=true
Book Mode=Tournament
Book Positions=2414780
Book Status=Hiarcs13aBook.hcs OK
Use Tablebases=Normally
Swindle Opponent=true
NalimovCache=32
NalimovPath=
Hash=512
Retain Hash=true
Position Learning=true
Smart Search=true
Optimistic Search=true
Combinations=true
Hiarcs Draw Value=0
Search Selectivity=4
Playing Style=Solid
Hyper-Modern Play=true
GUI Time Lag=false
AutoSave PGN=true
UCI_Elo=3000
UCI_LimitStrength=false
UCI_SearchMoves=true
UCI_ShowCurrLine=false
UCI_Chess960=false
MultiPV=1
Ponder=true
UCI_EngineAbout=HIARCS 13.2 MP Copyright (c) 2010 Applied Computer Concepts Ltd. All rights reserved. http://www.hiarcs.com

1. If your Operating System (OS) is Windows 7, you can start by setting the visibility of file extensions. You achieve this by navigating to Control Panel\ Folder Options and uncheck Hide extensions for known file types.

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2. Go back to your .ini file for HIARCS 13.2 engine, and in EngineCommand=Hiarcs 13.2 MP, put .exe - so that it now looks like this:

EDIT: One important PolyGlot rule to remember pertinent to engine files WITH spaces, is to ALWAYS put a quotation mark.
So for HIARCS 13.2 MP.exe, it should look like this instead:
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EngineCommand="HIARCS 13.2 MP.exe"


Alternately, you can always rename an executive file (engine) such that it has no spaces between its file and don't have to worry about remembering to put the quotation mark. For example, if you were to name HIARCS 13.2 MP.exe to HIARCS_13.2_MP.exe (or however you prefer to name it), it would look like this, without the need for quotation mark:
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EngineCommand=HIARCS_13.2_MP.exe


OR:
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EngineCommand=HIARCS13.2MP.exe

et, etc...

Additional error that needs correction is:
Error 1: In UCIVersion, under [PolyGlot] settings, for HIARCS you want to put 2. So that for HIARCS,
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UCIVersion=2.


The general rule with UCIVersion option is, if an engine has just 1 or more UCI_x string options, like HIARCS does (i.e UCI_ELO, UCI_LimitStrength, UCI_SearchMoves, UCI_Chess960 etc, etc), then it is classified as 2. That is, UCIVersion=2. If an engine does NOT have any UCI_x string/s, it falls under the category of 1.

Additional advise would be to enable
CanPonder=true
PromoteWorkAround=true

And as with all else, ensure that your paths to engine, books etc are correct.
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Re: all proplems

Postby angvl » 18 Dec 2011 21:50

Thank you very much Prima!! I will try that ! Now some other of my engines doesnt work. Sometimes they work and sometimes they dont work... My os is Vista 32 bit.
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Re: all proplems

Postby Prima » 18 Dec 2011 22:11

angvl wrote:Thank you very much Prima!! I will try that ! Now some other of my engines doesnt work. Sometimes they work and sometimes they dont work... My os is Vista 32 bit.

Windows 7 differs from Vista in that it is a bug-fix from Vista. Other than this, the Control Panel\Folder Options settings should be the same in both OS.

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