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Re: all proplems

Postby matematiko » 28 Jan 2009 06:10

dhalberger wrote:Thanks for the replies.

From reading, i gather you found the problem and are working to fix it. I anxiously await the new release (or patch). Thanks.


Problem has been fixed. See topic:
http://autochess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=635

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Re:YAY DISAPPEARS

Postby otto10 » 24 Apr 2009 21:37

CAN SOMEONE HELP ME? SOME DAYS AGO yay ULTIMATE 3.2.1,INSTALLED IN DEFAULT DRIVE, WAS DOING VERY FINE........NOW SUDDENLY IT DOES NOT WORK.I HAVE DONE MANY MULTIPLE RE-INSTALLS, BUT PROBLEM REMAINS THE SAME.NOW WHENEVER I START YAY, LOGIN AND ENTER A ROOM, PROGRAM DISAPPEARS...NO NOTHING ON SCREEN, MAY BE PROBLEM IS WITH WINBOARD.INI FILE COZ OF FOLLOWS..DETAILS SEEM BLANK AS FOLLOWS

}
/firstChessProgramNames={
}
/secondChessProgramNames={
}


KINDLY SOMEONE HELP ME PLZ!
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Re: Re:YAY DISAPPEARS

Postby il_konte » 25 Apr 2009 11:56

otto10 wrote:CAN SOMEONE HELP ME? SOME DAYS AGO yay ULTIMATE 3.2.1,INSTALLED IN DEFAULT DRIVE, WAS DOING VERY FINE........NOW SUDDENLY IT DOES NOT WORK.I HAVE DONE MANY MULTIPLE RE-INSTALLS, BUT PROBLEM REMAINS THE SAME.NOW WHENEVER I START YAY, LOGIN AND ENTER A ROOM, PROGRAM DISAPPEARS...NO NOTHING ON SCREEN, MAY BE PROBLEM IS WITH WINBOARD.INI FILE COZ OF FOLLOWS..DETAILS SEEM BLANK AS FOLLOWS

}
/firstChessProgramNames={
}
/secondChessProgramNames={
}


KINDLY SOMEONE HELP ME PLZ!

take a look here for the batch file
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=654&start=60

and here for the polyglot ini viewtopic.php?f=13&t=446
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Re: Re:YAY DISAPPEARS

Postby Prima » 25 Apr 2009 11:59

otto10 wrote:CAN SOMEONE HELP ME? SOME DAYS AGO yay ULTIMATE 3.2.1,INSTALLED IN DEFAULT DRIVE, WAS DOING VERY FINE........NOW SUDDENLY IT DOES NOT WORK.I HAVE DONE MANY MULTIPLE RE-INSTALLS, BUT PROBLEM REMAINS THE SAME.NOW WHENEVER I START YAY, LOGIN AND ENTER A ROOM, PROGRAM DISAPPEARS...NO NOTHING ON SCREEN, MAY BE PROBLEM IS WITH WINBOARD.INI FILE COZ OF FOLLOWS..DETAILS SEEM BLANK AS FOLLOWS

}
/firstChessProgramNames={
}
/secondChessProgramNames={
}


KINDLY SOMEONE HELP ME PLZ!


All I can think of, based on the information you provided, is to fill in the FirsChessProgram (fcp) and SecondChessProgram (scp), and most importantly, the icsNames space. Here's what I mean:

}
/icsNames={yahoo /ics /icshost=127.0.0.1 /icsport=6000 /zp /fcp="Polyglot.exe Polyglot_Rybka3Ox64MP-TPL2.ini"
chessclub.com /icsport=5000 /icshelper=timestamp
freechess.org /icsport=5000 /icshelper=timeseal
global.chessparlor.com /icsport=6000 /icshelper=timeseal
chessanytime.com /icsport=5000
chess.net /icsport=5000
zics.org /icsport=5000
jogo.cex.org.br /icsport=5000
ajedrez.cec.uchile.cl /icsport=5000
fly.cc.fer.hr /icsport=7890
freechess.nl /icsport=5000 /icshelper=timeseal
jeu.echecs.com /icsport=5000
chess.unix-ag.uni-kl.de /icsport=5000 /icshelper=timeseal
chess.mds.mdh.se /icsport=5000
}
/firstChessProgramNames={"Rybka v3 x64 MP" /fcp="Polyglot.exe Polyglot_Rybka3Ox64MP-TPL2.ini"
}
/secondChessProgramNames={"Rybka v3 x64 MP" /scp="Polyglot.exe Polyglot_Rybka3Ox64MP-TPL2.ini"
}
/showButtonBar=true


This is a portion of my WinBoard.ini file. Additionally, your polyglot_"x"engine.ini files(s) must match the "Polyglot_"x"engine.ini within Winoard.ini's fcp and scp (in bold letters) as seen in my WinBoard.ini

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Re: all proplems

Postby matematiko » 25 Apr 2009 16:19

Hello,

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/firstChessProgramNames={
}
/secondChessProgramNames={
}


The section of the winboard.ini shown above was leave blank on purpose, and that's the way it has been working for everybody for a long time. Because you said "everything was working fine at first, then the problem must be something you changed lately.

It is impossible to help when no error messages are described. Please follow il_konte's advice and discharge or create a batch file, it must begin with the instruction cmd /k that will keep the dos window open after an error ocurrs.

Reinstalling the wholw thing might help, but it wont shed light on what the problem was, and nothing will be learn from the mistake.

Good luck,
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- It is not ethical,
- It is useless, nothing is gained (how can one be proud of a score earn with dishonesty?)
- You will be baned, sooner or later,
- It gives us (the true chess engine players) a bad reputation.
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Re: all proplems

Postby otto10 » 25 Apr 2009 17:47

matematiko wrote:Hello,

Code: Select all
/firstChessProgramNames={
}
/secondChessProgramNames={
}


The section of the winboard.ini shown above was leave blank on purpose, and that's the way it has been working for everybody for a long time. Because you said "everything was working fine at first, then the problem must be something you changed lately.

It is impossible to help when no error messages are described. Please follow il_konte's advice and discharge or create a batch file, it must begin with the instruction cmd /k that will keep the dos window open after an error ocurrs.

Reinstalling the wholw thing might help, but it wont shed light on what the problem was, and nothing will be learn from the mistake.

Good luck,



thank you very much for replying, sir.

the problem is ...i have now formatted my c: drive twice....made few fresh installs of yay 3.2.1 flash editon.....however everytime i finally click a room to enter....everything disappears..no ics..winboard iterface comes up!..Also formatting should have soved my problem after a a clean install of YAY 3.

thx
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Re: all proplems

Postby matematiko » 25 Apr 2009 19:05

We are not gonna be able to find what are you doing wrong this way.

Listing the contents of those files won't help. We released those files, remember?, we know their content. What you need to do is listen to what had been said: launch YaY from a batch file as described before so the dos window stays open and you can see the error and report it here. And most important: Explain to us, exactly what you are doing, step by step and don't be cheap in the amount of details....the more details the better.

It will also help, if:
- You understand that there is nothing wrong with YaY,
- You admit that the problem is that you are not following directions and doing something wrong.

Admitting the above will set your mind to a different state and I am sure you will find the problem real quick.

Good luck,
Using engines to cheat:
- It is not ethical,
- It is useless, nothing is gained (how can one be proud of a score earn with dishonesty?)
- You will be baned, sooner or later,
- It gives us (the true chess engine players) a bad reputation.
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Re: all proplems

Postby otto10 » 25 Apr 2009 19:45

matematiko wrote:We are not gonna be able to find what are you doing wrong this way.

Listing the contents of those files won't help. We released those files, remember?, we know their content. What you need to do is listen to what had been said: launch YaY from a batch file as described before so the dos window stays open and you can see the error and report it here. And most important: Explain to us, exactly what you are doing, step by step and don't be cheap in the amount of details....the more details the better.

It will also help, if:
- You understand that there is nothing wrong with YaY,
- You admit that the problem is that you are not following directions and doing something wrong.

Admitting the above will set your mind to a different state and I am sure you will find the problem real quick.

Good luck,



dear matematiko,

thanks for ur advice...

the purpose of listing file contents was purely to help you help me if there was any corrupt or wrong settings.

i dont know how the moment you adviced me and i again tried to log in...........and i succeeded.....maybe the GOD of YAY timely intervened to help me out....and i got helped....may God bless you.

YaY is the best creative prog i have seen.

i love the way computer makes moves on my behalf.......it is sooooooo....pleasant.

thx a million

May u soon release a still lovelier version..
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Re: all proplems

Postby matematiko » 25 Apr 2009 20:22

Well,

Again, thanks for your kind words..but we are not taking credit from the work of others.Your computer moves in your behalf thanks to polyqlot or winboard232 (depending what you are using), thanks to Winboard, thanks to book makers, thanks to Rybka or whatever other engine you decide to use, and thanks to YaY which is based in the work of Chris Howie (we just polished it a little bit,sorted out the newest login challanges and added few little new features here and there).

Cheers,

P.S. Things don't get fixed by themselves, analize what you did different this time and there lies the answer.
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Re: all proplems

Postby chessboi » 26 Apr 2009 08:31

Sorry mate, heres the post -

Hi matematiko,

You seem to be the person who knows all about YAY and want to tell u I downloaded latest version and started using it for about 2 days now and very impressed with it being a first time user.

I noticed when I started playing the regular uses, I started losing all the time lol and they told me that they changed books.

So my friend my questions are-

1. Can you recommend me a strong book please.

I am using the rybka polygot shortcut.

And another question should I change the engine also? if you can?

Basically can you tell me how I can optimize my settings so I can have even more fun with the regular experienced YAY users on Yahoo and be at a similar level as them.

Just 1 more question buddy. I was observing a table with about 7 or 8 regular users also observing and everytime 1 person lost, that person would stand and someone else would sit down and play the next game. Please tell me why I can never sit down on the chair because everyone else is too fast to sit. Is there a way u can automatically take a seat when someone stands up?

Thanks very much for your time and keep up the great work!
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Re: all proplems

Postby Fortress_Defense » 26 Apr 2009 16:01

Rybka 3 quits each time I use the Polyglot shortcut. Does anyone know why this may be or how to fix?

NOTE: I have done multiple installs with no success. :(
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Re: all proplems

Postby matematiko » 26 Apr 2009 16:37

- Check the paths and name of files invoked for: Engine, book and TBs.

- Could be corrupted book and/or TBs.

If this happens from the very begining, then check that the winboard shortcut is invoking the correct polyglot and the correct polyglot initiation (ini) file.

Good luck,
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- It is not ethical,
- It is useless, nothing is gained (how can one be proud of a score earn with dishonesty?)
- You will be baned, sooner or later,
- It gives us (the true chess engine players) a bad reputation.
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Re: all proplems

Postby Fortress_Defense » 26 Apr 2009 16:42

matematiko wrote:- Check the paths and name of files invoked for: Engine, book and TBs.

- Could be corrupted book and/or TBs.

If this happens from the very begining, then check that the winboard shortcut is invoking the correct polyglot and the correct polyglot initiation (ini) file.

Good luck,


Ahh, okay.

Im sure the book is fine, it was working before.

This does happen at the beginning, so it could be that winboard thing. Only thing is, I only have one polyglot and only one poly ini file.

ill also be sure to check my namilov bases
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Re: all proplems

Postby matematiko » 26 Apr 2009 16:47

You can try without TBs, just to determine if there is a problem there.

Also, enable polyglot log, and after a problem occurs, go and open your polyglot log file and see what it says.

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[PolyGlot]
EngineCommand=Rybka3.exe
Book=true
BookFile=devil_advocate.bin
log=true
LogFile = Rybka3.log
KibitzMove=true
KibitzPV=false
KibitzCommand=kibitz
KibitzDelay=5

[engine]
Hash = 256
Max CPUs=2048
NalimovPath=C:\YaY_Ultimate_3\WinBoard_x\TBs\
NalimovCache=8
NalimovUsage=0
.
.
.
.


In the next example, after purposedly declaring an non-existing book, at the end of rybkalog.txt I can see this:

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Engine->Adapter: uciok
Adapter->Engine: setoption name Hash value 128
Adapter->Engine: setoption name NalimovPath value C:\YaY_Ultimate_3\WinBoard_x\TBs\
Adapter->Engine: setoption name NalimovCache value 8
Adapter->Engine: setoption name NalimovUsage value 1
Adapter->Engine: setoption name Preserve Analysis value 1
Adapter->Engine: setoption name Ponder value True
Adapter->Engine: isready
book_open(): can't open file "devil_advocate.bin": No such file or directory
POLYGLOT *** QUIT ***
Adapter->Engine: quit
closing child
process still active after "quit"


polyglot log is a powerfull tool barely used.

Also, In Winboard, please verify that under OPTIONS, GENERAL, POP UP EXIT MESSAGE is checkmarked.

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Re: all proplems

Postby Fortress_Defense » 26 Apr 2009 17:25

I started off with taking away the tablebases and using the log, the engine hasn't quit, ty very much ^_^

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